Why does the scooter have unstable idle speed and always stall?
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The reasons for unstable idle speed and frequent stalling of the scooter are as follows: 1. Idle speed switch: When the idle contact is closed and a low potential is input to the IDL terminal of the ECU, the ECU determines that the engine is in idle condition and starts the idle control program to control the engine operation. Due to improper adjustment of the idle contact gap, poor contact, damage, or circuit failure, the motorcycle engine ECU cannot correctly determine the idle condition, leading to idle control errors and various idle speed problems. 2. Idle speed control valve: The idle speed control valve is used to control the bypass air volume entering the intake manifold bypassing the throttle valve during idle conditions to regulate the idle speed. The engine maintains stable operation at the set target speed based on signals from the water temperature sensor and other auxiliary device status signals, using a feedback control process. The ISC control valve types include stepper motor type, rotary solenoid valve type, duty cycle control type, and vacuum solenoid valve type. When the ISC valve is clogged with carbon deposits, stuck, or when the control circuit experiences short circuits, open circuits, or grounding, the engine ECU cannot correctly control the opening of the ISC valve, resulting in poor idle speed.
Last time my scooter had the same issue, the idle speed was fluctuating and it kept stalling, making me afraid to stop at red lights. I found the main reason was a dirty throttle body, since I usually ride in dusty areas, and sludge had clogged the intake passage. Another problem was the aging spark plug—when I took it out, the electrode was burnt black, causing intermittent ignition. I also checked the fuel tank and found the fuel filter full of rust debris, leading to unstable fuel supply. I recommend regularly cleaning the throttle body, replacing the air filter every 5,000 kilometers, and refueling at reputable gas stations whenever possible. If cleaning doesn’t solve the problem, you may need to adjust the valve clearance or check the sensor wiring.
I suggest you first check the most critical points: Remove the air filter to see if it's clogged with dust, as a dirty filter directly affects the air intake volume; then pull off the spark plug cap to inspect the ignition condition, as excessive electrode gap or heavy carbon buildup can cause stalling; next, check if the throttle cable is sticking, and inspect the exhaust pipe for any mud blockage. If all these seem fine, it might be an issue with the carburetor's mixture ratio being off, requiring adjustment of the idle screw with a screwdriver—usually turning it clockwise half a turn can stabilize the RPM. Lastly, a reminder: consistently using cheap gasoline from small gas stations can easily lead to gum deposits in the fuel injectors, causing poor fuel supply. It's best to add a bottle of fuel system cleaner periodically to maintain clean fuel lines.
Most scooter stalling issues at idle come from these faults: A faulty throttle position sensor gives inaccurate opening readings; A gasoline filter unchanged for 3-5 years gets completely clogged; The bypass valve sticks shut during cold starts; Loose engine mount bolts cause excessive vibration; Oxidized battery terminals lead to voltage fluctuations. Once my scooter's oxygen sensor got contaminated by exhaust fumes, disrupting all idle signals. Another critical factor is incorrect float chamber fuel level in the carburetor - worn needles cause erratic fuel delivery. Always keep fuel tank above empty, as sucking up bottom sediment accelerates component wear.
