I couldn't even find them on ebay!! Known for their crispness and fast sustain. Zildjian produced these between 1985 - 1996. Played by such artists as Vinnie Colauita and Prince's Michael Bland. They sound AMAZING, having recorded and played with these live but I have another pair so I'm letting these go. Grab these hard to find hats to add to diversify your arsenal! I am located in Savannah, Georgia